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Philosophers of religion hold three views on proving God's existence: proven, unproven, and unprovable. Mostafa Malekian limits the ways of proving a proposition to sensory evidence or its effects, and rejects all other paths using Occam's razor.

An entry point to the argumentative discussions concerning religious propositions
The discussion reached the common ground between the theories of Durkheim, Freud, Fromm, and Jung. We said that we look for the psychological and social motives for believing in the existence of an object when that object's existence cannot be rationally proven. Can religious beliefs truly not be rationalized? The most important and principal doctrinal belief is the proposition "God exists."
From here we enter another discussion called proving the existence of God. Views on the Existence of God Regarding the existence of God, philosophers of religion are divided into three groups: 1- The existence of God has been proven. 2- The existence of God has not been proven. 3- The existence of God cannot be proven. The discussion is not about the proposition "God does not exist," but rather "God exists" is the subject of discourse.
As for the adherent of the second view, they must find fault with all arguments for the existence of God put forth by religions and philosophers. And the adherent of the third view must take a different path.
Those who say the existence of God cannot be proven have taken two paths:
How can a limited intellect attain comprehensive knowledge of a God who is, by hypothesis, unlimited? As long as human reason is limited and God is assumed to be unlimited, the existence of God is unprovable. This path has a long history in human culture, just as some mystics have spoken in this way.
A paradoxical concept is a concept within which some components contradict one another, like the concept of liquid ice. It must be noted that proving the existence of something means proving that a concept has an instance. Therefore, the path to proving the existence of liquid ice is closed, because ice is that which is solid, and liquid is that which is not solid. So we would have to prove the existence of something that is both solid and not solid, and this entails the realization of a contradiction. This second path does not have much of a history.
Some philosophers make such a claim regarding God. They say the God of religions and denominations has certain attributes. For example, He is omniscient, omnipotent, and omnibenevolent. Or other concepts not mentioned in sacred texts but believed by the faithful. For instance, God is the Necessary Existent, infinite, and without time and space. Some have said that omniscience is paradoxical, some that omnipotence is, and so on. Among the six attributes mentioned, omnipotence has been challenged the most.
A point: If someone holds that the existence of God has not been proven or is unprovable, this does not mean that God does not exist. Indeed, there are many who say God exists, but His existence has not been proven so far or will never be proven. So there is no necessary connection between these two meanings. It is possible for someone to believe in the existence of God through innate nature, the heart, or other means, yet consider it rationally unproven. For example, Kierkegaard, the great Christian philosopher and mystic, says the existence of God has not been rationally proven.
Yes, if someone says that the existence of God is unprovable because God is a self-contradictory concept, then there is a necessary connection between this statement and the denial of God's existence. These three views each have numerous proponents. Before addressing the views, it is necessary to mention a few preliminaries.
Ways of Proving a Proposition
First Preliminary: When is the proposition "x exists" proven? First Way: The object of the proposition (x) being perceivable. The first way to prove this proposition is to say: "x is perceivable to me." In this case, I can say that "x exists," because if it were non-existent, it could not be perceived. Perception and the perceived are used here in the broad sense, encompassing both outer and inner senses. Perceived by the outer senses, such as colors, smells, tastes, and perceived by the inner senses, such as anger, hope, love, envy, etc. The only deniers of this way are extreme skeptics, whose opinion we will set aside for now. But is there a second way or not? If no other way exists, we must first abandon the assertion of the existence of substances. That is, there is no substance called chair, door, wall, cat, human, etc. Matter, form, body, intellect, and even possibly the soul do not exist; relational accidents also do not exist. The accidents of the soul, namely quantity and quality, are also limited.
Second Way
We will express the second way in two formulations:
First – At least one of the effects or properties of X is perceivable to me. According to the first way, I say A exists because it is perceivable to me. And since A is an effect or property of X, then X also exists.
The second formulation is this: Sometimes something becomes perceivable to me, so we say it exists, and then we see that its existence cannot be justified unless I affirm the existence of another thing; therefore, I also affirm the existence of that other thing. Example: Suppose you suddenly land in a barren, empty desert. After walking, you suddenly see a bowl of hot soup in the middle of the desert. We assume that the existence of the bowl of soup is what you perceive. But affirming the existence of the bowl of soup depends on affirming that there is a human being in this vicinity, that this person knows how to cook, had water, had salt, had chickpeas and beans, had a need to cook soup, had a means of cooking, that this pot was on the fire until a few minutes ago, and so on. But none of these things were perceivable to you; however, you affirm these things through the second way. Here, something is perceivable whose existence cannot be justified except by assuming the existence of X, Y, Z. Now, is there a third way or not? No.
One of the philosophers and bishops of the Christian Middle Ages has a saying here. William of Ockham, from one of the cities of Europe, says: If a person claims the existence of X and then has perceived neither X itself nor any effect of it, this person has stepped outside the circle of humanity. We have no third way to affirm the existence of X. If someone denies this statement, they must accept every absurd matter. For example, they must accept that a two-headed, six-tailed horse exists. That such-and-such a thing also exists. That is, for any other object, under every bush in the deserts, a ghoul lies sleeping. In bathhouses and storerooms, jinn exist. In the deserts, kidnappers exist. In the seas, nisnas exist, and so on. But if one applies this double-edged rule, the world becomes sparse and stripped bare. Hence, this double-edged rule is called Ockham's Razor.
The only group that says God exists through the first way are the mystics. They say that they find God through presential knowledge and inner sense. But non-mystics affirm the existence of God through the second way. Either through motion, or order, or the moral command and prohibition that proves a commander and prohibitor, or...
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با سلام و احترام و تشکر ویژه جسارتا درسگفتار براهین اثبات خدا همان درسگفتار کلام جدید استاد ملکیان است؟یعتی یک عنوان هست درسته؟
سلام و با تشکر فراوان از سایت بسیار خوبتون که بنده زندگیم را به مقدار قابل توجهی وامدار سایتتون هستم.... از شما خواهشمندم صوت درسگفتار براهین اثبات خدا استاد ملکیان را قرار دهید چون به علت جامع بودن درسگفتار های ایشان انسان دیدگاه بسیار شاملی به بحث پیدا میکند و این بحث از اموری بسیار تاثیر گذار در زندگی من و امثال من است...
سلام اگه صوت درسگفتار هم در دسترس بزارين مديونتون خواهم بود
سلام اگر ممکن است درسگفتار براهین نفی واثبات خدا استاد ملکیان را در سایت قرار دهید در دهه80 در دانشگاه تربیت مدرس تدریس شده. ممنون
سلام به شدت نیاز مند صوت این جلسات هستم چگونه میتوانم تهیه شون کنم ؟